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Looking At The Depth Of Marriage – jj

Looking At The Depth Of Marriage

John MacArthur teaches on marriage and divorce this is part 2 of his message. in part 2 he is looking at Hosea to the depth and principle of marriage.


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  1. I met you Mr Macarthur at Willingdon Mennonite church here in Vancouver Canada; and my fiancee at the time was not able to join me, yet, you were willing to speak to Sherri on my cell phone and I must tell you she was so excited! But, I was hurt by what you said to her… "are you sure about this guy"
    She took your words to heart and moved on :(:( A sermon that you gave: "the willful submission of a christian wife" (get married) is one of my favorites yet, its, bitter sweet. Did you see "something" about me that made you say that; was the Holy spirit speaking to you? I'm to this day still in pain about a "moment" that affected my LIFE!. She returned the ring and I was so torn apart if I may and to see her on "facebook" married! Please, someday tell me why you said that????

  2. Paul tried to enforce the law of moses against believers who sinned in corinthians also saying expell the wicked man from among you
    If you dont understand how that'd be impossible you didnt listen to the spirit rofl

    If you obeyed paul and enforced duetoronomy you'd be a hypocrite not knowing anything about the gospel of Jesus Christ and justification of the sinner

  3. Law vomit dogs or grace?

    regards to sex it is inate to humans to want sexual fulffillment
    Its a sin to deny this as natural God given part of being mankind.
    Sin is to miss the mark of Gods will miss the point foolishness
    Sex should be within marriage between a man and woman according to law
    Yet We are all sinners saved by grace through faith in Jesus christ made children of God and not under law or according to law.
    and all being sinners if one boasts in marriage law against another justifed by faith in christ Jesus if that one sins because we are weak in the flesh but pardoned by God through Jesus christ becoming sin for us, then the one boasting in the marraige law is in the flesh and the one seeking to be justified by faith in christ rather than law and so proven a sinner for seeking to be justifed by faith in christ , that one is walking in the spirit.
    and in any case marriage was before the law just by a man and woman having sex becoming one flesh they by sex are married and should never be seperated ever! so if one boasts in laws of marriage of this world or laws against homosexuals by the law of moses saying homosexuals are condemned especially As sinners against two homosexuals having sex they are unspiritual looking to law, who are not realising that marriage between a man and woman is before the law and especially not validated by worldly laws and not realising that homosexuals are not justified by the law of moses but by faith in Jesus christ apart the law and apart from the deeds of the body caused by the weakness of the flesh.
    so it is true that all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God and all are freely justified by faith in Jesus christ the son of God. For if one uses any part of the law of moses against any man one is proven a law breaker defying Jesus christ.
    So for the church to use the law in regards to homosexuality and in regards to
    heterosexual marriage is walking according to the flesh and NOT led of the spirit.
    so the church must repent unto acknowlegdment of the truth.

  4. Unbelievable I feel obligated somehow to explain MacArthur' English, when I cannot even open my mouth before him…
    But: " the sons of this age marry & are given in marriage, so if a Levite comes from any of your gates, from where he dwells among all Israel, and comes with all the desire of his mind, to the place which the LORD chooses, then he may serve in the name of the LORD ( His God) as all his brethren, the Levites DO -( Matt.23:1) Who stand there before the LORD.= " THEY shall have equal portions to eat, besides what comes from the sale of his inheritance " 🙁 Rev. 13:16 none can understand , for when Saul inquired of the LORD, the LORD did not answer him, either by dreams or by Urim or by the prophets !) For all people walk each in the name of his God , but We walk in the name of the LORD Our God forever and ever… and now if their fall is riches for the world, and their failure riches for the gentiles, how much more their fullness in divorce ?? Shall you reign because you enclose yourself in cedar ?( It is anology for: marriage , stupid , for I clothe the heavens with blackness and I make sackcloth "their covering" :)… and as I said to the Jews, where I am going, you cannot come, so now I say to you ! Otherwise, what will they DO , who are baptized for the dead, if the dead do not rise at all ???

  5. Sorry, I hit send by accident. Joseph hadn’t “known” Mary, at this point. Jewish custom was to be “engaged” to one another for a week year after their marriage ceremony. Not leaving one another and staying day and night in each other’s company. That’s why he couldn’t understand her pregnancy, he had been with her all the time.
    1st Cor 5:1, Fornication, for this unmarried member with his stepmother. She commits adultery because she’s married but apparently not a member subject to church discipline. Paul uses this particular sin, which is practiced in gentile/pagan/heathen culture, as some were before conversion, and teaches on Fornication until Chapter 7 and then in 7:2 “to flee Fornication… get married” if you have the desires and want the fulfillment then you must do it the way GOD designed, only within marriage. Paul in 7:7 states to not have the desire to marry is a gift, not all have the gift ( some get confused and think they’re “different” because they’re not attracted to the opposite sex). In 7:10-11 “remain unmarried (don’t marry another) or be reconciled” if there’s a “separation” for some reason, then honor the covenant you made with your spouse and with GOD.
    King David and Saul and Solomon have to go by Scripture just as all men and women. “One man one woman til death”, Polygamy is adultery. Deut. 17:17 “(Kings) neither shall they multiply wives…”
    If you marry another, saving for Fornication, and marry another while spouse is alive….. you commit adultery and whosoever marries your first spouse commits adultery” First, honor GOD and HIS Covenants with others “king David wanted another’s little lamb”. You can be forgiven of the adultery but your Covenants can’t be annulled or prayed away or graced over. If Covenants can be divorced for sin within the covenant marriage, then we can be divorced since our Salvation because of sin within the covenant. GOD keeps HIS Covenants/Promises/Vows and HIS Children are expected, too.
    Grace and Mercy is not optional for Christians. Thanks

  6. This is constructive, not critical. It was deception, that lead to “the Fall” of mankind and our understanding of Scripture, the Lords Doctrines, that helps us to not be deceived, again (1st Tim. 2:13). Yes, marriage is a Covenant (Malachi 2:14) and in Eph. 5:22-33 Salvation ( also Covenant but eternal) is likened unto marriage ( a temporal covenant.,Can’t be married to JESUS and spouse in heaven that’s adultery). Yes, marriage is until death (Romans 7:2-3, 1St Cor 7:39) That’s why you commit adultery by marrying another if your spouse is alive, except Fornication. GOD doesn’t recognize Divorce “putting away” as GOD calls it. HE doesn’t teach using the term “Divorce”. HE didn’t give the writing of Divorcement. Look at Deut. 22:13-21 this is the “Fornication” referred to by JESUS. In v19b “….May not put her away all his day….” this is what the Pharisees couldn’t accept “until death”. That’s what brought the WOD in Deut. 24:1-4. GOD challenges it in JER 3:1 “They say….” then v8 gives WOD but look at v14 “I am married unto you….) no power over what GOD hath joined and Israel and Gomer (Hosea 3:1-5) committed adultery. Also, John 8:1-11 not even The adulteress’ spouse could throw a stone. 70×7 applies to our spouses. “Be kind, tender hearted, forgiving one another (spouses included all you Ronans 3:23)…..”
    Matt 5:31 “it hath been said, if a man puts away his wife for any cause give her WOD….”
    Look at 5:21 and v27 “ it hath been said by them of old time…” JESUS acknowledges that these two were in the first giving of the law and preached publicly from HIS pulpits. GOD spoke directly to Moses when giving the Law but not Deuteronomy, the second giving. Moses was only to recite, not add too. This is where the great law giver tried to be the he Great law maker and only GOD Commands Law. In Matt. 19:1-9 we see the Pharisees come a test THE LORD because of Matt 5:31. In v9, this is the third time GOD has shown that HE didn’t allow the WOD (Jer 3:1, Matt. 5:31) and here “Moses allowed ….; but from the beginning (of the Law) it was not so”.
    Fornication is sexual intimacy by an unmarried person (not in covenant), premarital sex. In Deuteronomy 22:13-21, the young bride held herself out to be a Virgin and these tokens of her virginity were not found by the evidence of the white linen cloth. Take notice of Joseph in Matt. 1, yes a righteous man but he was “stuck”. He was “minded”, he thought about doing it privately, in secret. Divorce was not public because it was not of GOD. The cause or “case” of Fornication required “the linen cloth”for proof

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